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Poster: cb18201 Date: Mar 10, 2011 10:46am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Playing in the Band 4/14/72

maybe one more listen?

http://www.gdhour.com/music/JeffreyNorman_110204.mp3

First off I think the new mix sounds great. I don't find Keith really buried at all. Its more or less the same volume. Maybe a tiny tiny bit quieter if anything. Overall I really like the mix though, sounds very clear and punchy. As for Norman saying Keith "gets in the way".....he also said right before it "Keiths playing great" and goes on to say how sometimes Keith just plays steady chord clusters and tonal things on some songs without alot of fills so he wouldn't feature that in a mix. Its almost like having an extra rhythm guitar banging away. To me that means hes gonna bring Keith up in the parts where he shines the most and back him off on the more rhythm parts. When he says "gets in the way" I don't think he means it as if Keiths playing itself is bad, I think he means that certain piano parts might dominate the mix to much if its brought up. I think Norman just used a poor choice of words. During this interview he talks about working on the 4/16/72 - Aarhus, Denmark show. If you listen to the Deal from that show you'll see what he means. It kinda does seem like Keith doesn't really know what to play. It's mostly chord bangin' with a few fills. He also talks about bringing people up at certain times in certain songs if they are doing something interesting. And also says he knows that we (the consumers) "want to hear parts" meaning a bass riff from Phil or a piano fill from Keith. David Gans is the one who suggests editing out parts to make a song better which I think is completely unacceptable. I want it with mistakes and all. Thats the whole point of it being a "LIVE" show. Editing out mistakes is for Studio albums. Either way Im not worried about Norman doin the mixing. Listen to the Rockin' The Rhein. Those mixes sound amazing. And its gonna be Re-re mixed to sound even better. Reminds me of the great Mitch Hedberg quote: "I remixed the remix and it was back to normal"

And the way they're doing it really seems to be the only way you can. Just gotta sit down and attack it one show at a time. It would be impossible to pull out every tape ahead of time and go through all of them one song at a time just to make sure every note is there first. Therefore they must already know they have at least 98% of the music that was played and enough tapes to cover all gaps. Im sure there are a few places where there gonna have to splice and patch in.

Just for some more info I emailed D. Lemieux telling him about how alot of us felt that we would rather have them take their sweet time than rush anything. I'll be glad to wait any extra time for it to be perfect. I've waited this long already. I can wait a little longer. This is what Dave had to say (which was good to hear):


"Rest assured nothing is going to be released until it is 100% perfect. We aren't rushing anything, and as you might have heard if you downloaded the Playing In The Band today, it is going to sound every bit as good as it should, which is to say perfect, and as good as any previous Europe '72 release. In fact, likely better due to the Plangent Processes system.

I do appreciate the concern, though. But truthfully, nothing is more important to us on this than the quality, and we won't be done until it's done."

DL






Well there you have it. I guess its just up to everyones own personal taste whether they like the mixes or not.

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Poster: jerlouvis Date: Mar 10, 2011 1:22pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Playing in the Band 4/14/72

Good information and intelligent post cb18201.

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Poster: cb18201 Date: Mar 10, 2011 2:20pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Playing in the Band 4/14/72

Thank you. It's been on my mind since the day I heard it was coming out. I was pretty confident they would never release these shows as a box set. At least not in my lifetime anyways, and I never imagined it would be such an elaborate design (steamer trunk, book, etc). I was also glad to hear there not gonna rearrange any sets and use four discs if necessary. That's pretty weird how it came out to exactly 72 discs.